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Beginner (and veteran) tips and tricks

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  • Charlie 0

    Thanks for the write-up. Wish I'd had this when I started out. I've noticed a charm don't always pay out exactly the same, so is the payout a range rather than a specific value?

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  • Tickle

    Watt Ever did an article with all of the coin values of charms. It appears that each charm has a set amount of total coins but pay out at different speeds. Even then it appears that the amount of each spin payout is somewhat random. The full extent of how they work is still a mystery to me.

    I know with mushrooms they pay out a little if you win a lot on your spin and a lot if you only win a small amount on a spin (as long as you win something). If you play a game that has a lot of small hits such as Mystic Billions, Vegas Baby or Lucky 7's then you will make money on about 75% of your spins. Grandpatrick charms seem to work similar to mushrooms but you almost never see those charm parties, maybe it's only a St. Patricks Day thing?

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  • Charlie 0

    Yes, that sounds about right. I saw Ever's article. The comments touch on the variability of the payouts.

    But the other day I saw a Succulent charm payout 1.8M coins and then a second Succulent payout 7.8M coins. 

    I measure charm payouts with Mahjong. It is easy to get an accurate measure of the payout with this game since your coin total does not change during the game -- except for the coins disbursed by charms.

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  • MJayne01

    Thank you ELA3689 for the very clear and easy to read overall CW game insights and tips.  You have done a wonderful job and I hope new and seasoned players take the time to review your notes.  I wish that I had known about the Willie Nelson bldgs. when I started!  With only pop-up reminders about the challenges, I had know idea what the red numbers meant for months....lol.  I started CW just to play a bingo game that I didn't have to download and give up all of my personal info to.  I am now working on MS54 and have hundreds of friends.  When finances improve for us I hope to become a V.I.P. and get all those great monthly gifts and pets. Thank you again for taking the time for the write up!  MJ

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  • T n TX

    Good tips. It surprises me that certain people take your tips & tell everyone about them & that their CW employee gave them the tip. Not mentioning any names here. Thank you so much. :-) If people would just read the community, they could learn so much.

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  • Tickle

    Thanks T n TX, some of these tips I learned from reading other posts but most I figured out for myself over time. I try to give credit where I can if it was someone else's idea. For the most part I don't care who shares these but it is a bit comical when suddenly a few days after posting this people are sharing a "new tip" at parties. :eyeroll:

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  • T n TX

    LOL I agree Tickle.... yep eyeroll  lol

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  • Tickle

    Blackjack challenges: If the challenge is to win 2x your bet 2 games in a row then look at the bottom hand options. You can choose to play 2 hands at the same time, this makes it much easier to complete the challenge since you only need the dealer to bust or have a poor hand one time rather than twice in a row. You can also win the 2nd of your two hands and then win the 1st of your next hands, that still counts as 2 in a row.

    Same if  you get a challenge where you need to hit a certain number of blackjack hands, just crank it up to 5 hands at a time and the challenge will go a lot quicker.

    Roulette: If you get the challenge to win 3x your bet then you want to pick a 3-1 payout bet. This can be one of the 2-1 "columns" on the right hand side or one of the lower "dozen" 1st12 2nd12 3rd12 bets. Either way you choose gives you a 2-1 payout plus you get your original bet back for a net total of 3-1.

    I haven't tested it but you should also be able to bet any 12 random numbers (must be equal bets). The payout for hitting any of those 12 numbers is 35-1 + your bet back = 36-1. Since you made 12 bets a 36-1 payout should qualify for the 3-1 payout.

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  • Tickle

    Have a ton of charms that you want to burn off (or passes for parties where you can get tons of charms) but don't have the patience to spin them down at slot games? If you have a ton of charms, hundreds or thousands, this can take hours to do. Consider playing Sparkplug Poker to convert those charms to coins in a hurry.

    The best setup that I've found so far it to play Jacks or Better at the $500,000 x 10 hands setting, any higher bet amount is overkill from what I've seen. Load up a full slate of 20 charms (4 sets of 5 charms) that are 4 clover or higher. Jacks or Better is a fairly low risk game with small wins occurring often and any win triggers a charm payout. If you get a small win it may only burn off 1 or 2 of each charm set for a total of 4-8 charms in one play but that is still really fast. If you hit something good it will often burn off all 20 charms at once!

    Note: If you are playing lower tier charms adjust your bet size down accordingly. I haven't tested it much but it seems that $50,000 x 10 hands is okay for the 2 clover charms. I don't get a lot of 3 clover charms, and the 1 clover charms are a waste, So I just burn those off easily in a slot game.

    If you have 20 bats loaded up that is potentially 100 million coins (+ the poker win) generated in a  matter of seconds. Of course this means that you burn through your charms like wildfire but that is the point.

    Note: It's a bit of a pain but after each spin reload your charms so that you have the maximum 20 x 4 clover or a single high tier charm loaded at all times to maximize your return. You can simply unload any charms that have less than a quantity of 5 and then reload back the same type of charm to get the full quantity of 5. Once you get used to it this is quick and easy.

     

    Edit: I've found that it's even more effective to bet $5000 x 100 hands. The 4 clover charms still burn down just as fast but you risk a lot less each play. Since the regular play is a net negative this is the better way to cash in the charms in my opinion. Obviously you would lower the bet for lower tier charms but keep the 100 hands, that seems to be the secret sauce.

    Edit 2: This doesn't work very well with the 5 or 6 clover charms, they just pay out way too slowly. Others have had success burning large charms with Mahjong, maybe give that a try. Also, some 2 clover charms seem to also pay out slowly which is not good for this game. Stick to Bats and Unicorns, Mushrooms work well also but they almost pay out too fast.

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  • Charlie 0

    Tickle, I use Mahjong for that purpose. It can burn through 78 bats in one game. As long as you recoup your initial investment, there is zero loss in charm value and coin count. I rarely take any loss at all on the game. In fact, if it weren't for this game I'd probably not try to climb this ridiculous coin ladder.

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  • Tickle

    Ya but I hate Mahjong :)

    I just burnt off about 200-300 bats/unicorns in half an hour, haven't worked it out but I think I got about 90%+ of the value from them. If you play Jacks or Better somewhat close to the proper strategy there is a tiny house edge. Wish I had found that game earlier, would probably have another milestone by now.

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  • Tickle

    Is there a reason why when I post a new comment, or edit an old one, in this thread that it sits for days as "pending approval"?

    I haven't seen this anywhere else on this forum.

    Edit: Okay, this comment didn't require approval? is it a character limit thing?

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  • Michael B17

    Some of mine do that too

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  • Charlie 0

    There's another aspect to think about with this. Bats tend to pay out in large quantities. Other charms not so much. For instance, a Bat will pay out 5M per hand, but a Luckiest 7 pays out on a range of 300K to 1M per hand. With the bat worth about 5M, it will disappear with one hand. The Luckiest 7 is worth upwards of 90M, so it will take a while to work it off. And of course the longer you play this game, the more you risk.(Hint: the house always wins.)

    This payout "velocity" if you will, is coded charm behavior, I believe, because I've observed it several times. Just another reason why bats are the best.

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  • Tickle

    Ya, you're correct there. Bats, Unicorns and Mushrooms pay out like wildfire but some other charms pay out painfully slow. I've actually tried Mahjong to get rid of the bigger charms, even though I don't like the game it does burn down the big charms better.

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  • Tickle

    Another note:

    After trying out a few games I've found that 3 card poker is really good for burning down the big 5 and 6 clover charms. It's also good for mowing through large numbers of 2 tier charms like choppers. It's not as efficient as Mahjong but it is a LOT faster. I bet $1,000,000 on the play line and $500,000 on the pair plus line with the large charms.

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